Separation of Church and State 9/29/08
(Note: While writing this word today, the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 778 points for an all time record point drop. It was not until this note was complete that I realized this event. This confirms in my heart the urgency for this letter. Please feel free to send it out as you see fit.)
Now more than ever is the time to uncover demonic strongholds and false arguements. It’s time to expose that which is a lie as being a lie. It’s time to expose that which has been in hiddenness and to strip those dark things of their power according to the will and timing of the Lord.
Now is time to expose good sounding arguments that are filled with the leaven of bondage. It’s time to come out of limited worldly understanding to a more complete Kingdom understanding in as much as the Lord is willing to reveal.
Col 2:2-4 My purpose is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. I tell you this so that no one may deceive you by fine sounding arguments.
2 Cor 10:5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.
Now is the time to demolish antichrist arguments that render today’s church powerless against principalities, authorities and rulers in high places over America. It’s time to uncover strategies and tactics of satan that come against Kingdom ministries so that what has been will be no more. Likewise, it’s time to intercede like never before to crash down these old religious walls of limitations that have been standing for generations against America. It’s time to be filled with the Holy Spirit, gain what is truth by revelation, and fight this fight with all the authority and power that Christ died for us to have. The days of compromise and of fear to speak out for truth must come to an end.
With this in mind…
The concept of separation of church and state is a lie from the pits of hell. It was born generations ago from times of deep Spiritless religious error. In days when the church was operating in great error, the church brought condescending persecution against all who did not think as they. The church manipulated in brutal and worldly ways. The church was all but devoid of the Holy Spirit of God in those days. Rather than operating in and by the Holy Spirit with love and encouragement, the church operated with militant manipulation and worldly judgment. Thus the concept of the separation of church and state was born. It was a demonic strategy all along. It was a lie sown out of religious error and hate, defined by satan, raised in the flesh of men, readily accepted by the world and then adopted by the religious Spiritless church in America. Now for generations it has held. But it is patently false, and unmistakably so when one takes just a tertiary look at the founding documents of the United States of America.
The result has been measures of manifestations of the spirit of antichrist within the American government.
When God speaks a word, it becomes his bond. So when he declares and then writes down a principle, it becomes his bond. When God says something is a sin, it is forever a sin. When he declares a way, it is forever a way. Satan knows this better than any man. He is a legalist. He attempts to establish ways that are leavened with falsity so that when we believe in such falsities, we reap the cost for what we have chosen to believe. Hence the following strategy…
As to any government, when we separate the church from the state, that takes godliness out of the state. The state becomes independent of God. It becomes dependant on worldly ways. The state becomes free to enact antichrist policies and laws.
This follows then with the scriptural principle that all must submit to the state. Satan knows that whatever the state establishes, we must follow:
Rom 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.
When the church has become irrelevant in a country, the government of that country departs from godliness. That is what the church reaps when it loses the vision of its place and call within a nation. Satan then works hard to take control of the government so as to enact legislation and persecution against the church and the Lord’s plan and call for a nation.
God establishes all leadership in the world. But God does so based on what the church asks for and how the church asks. Scripture is clear about the absolute necessity for the church to pray. If we agree with this notion of separation of church and state, we effectively silence our voices that ask and declare God’s plan for the direction of our nation. The result is no power to stop demonic infiltration.
When we do not ask, we get what we ask for. What we get is nothing. Better said, what we get is a lesser thing. We end up with less than what God wants for the nation.
What we have asked for when we do not intercede are ungodly leaders that enact ungodly policy. If we don’t speak the walls in place, the devil is free to pass. This is exactly what happened in the days of Bill Clinton. We did not ask. We did not collectively intercede. We got what we asked for. Then, to compound matters, the church did not pray for him. Rather we judged Bill Clinton as we threw him stones.
Then follows the bellow principle that never changes:
1 Peter 2:13-14a Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to governors…
Simply said, this principle becomes our bond of responsibility. Whether Godly or ungodly, we must submit to whatever leadership is in control of this country. So when we do not ask, we get what we ask for, ungodliness. Then we are charged to submit to it. When we do not ask, we get antichrist. We then reap the damage that follows. As goes the leader, so goes the nation!
This strategy has plaid itself out time and again over the generations since Jesus’ complete work of the cross.
Indifference is just as much in error as is the wrong choice. Indifference is a deadly way!
This is what happens when we do not ask (intercede):
James 4:1-3 What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? You want something but don’t get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God. When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.
Many errors are spoken of in the above scripture, but not asking is clearly defined as one of them. For us to not ask means that we have chosen to do it of our own strength. Indifference to the business of state means that we have either given up our responsibility to intercede for government, or we are doing things from our own motives and strength. Both ways are in great error.
What we get when we do not ask is division on a national scale.
This is what happens when we do ask from a right dependant heart:
Ma 21:22 If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.
John 15:16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit–fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.
This intercession, this asking, is written about over and over in the New Testament. It is this asking and receiving that is part of what Christ died on the cross to give to us.
When the Lord spoke prophetically in 1999 and 2000 to intercede for this next President, we DID ask. The church heard the word and we collectively got to the business of intercession in a way that had not been done for generations in America. We got what we asked for in the form of a humble man of God, George W. Bush. What was set in motion from January 2001 were plans of the Lord to prosper and restore America to her spiritual roots. Revival was promised. And here we are in this day as revival has begun across this land. God moved in ways we still do not fully understand. But what has begun is still in the beginning stages, and the devil knows it. This is why America is under attack in this hour financially.
When we don’t ask, the devil gets a free ride. When we do ask, the devil is displaced. Today in America, the Lord is calling us once again to ASK and DECLARE!
If we agree in this falsity of separation of church and state, we are agreeing with a demonic generational lie that has formed a wall of division between the church and the American government. Ultimately, this strategy is to prevent spiritual and church growth for generations. What we have bought into is the primary means for the enemy to take down this nation. The ultimate goal of satan to divide and destroy America has, as his primary strategy, this policy of separation of church and state.
What has been shaken since the end of 2000 is the very core of this demonic principle. Founded by visionaries who sounded the war cry, the church started to pray. Suddenly the tide began to turn. The prophetic word went forth for people to pray in the Holy Spirit. The Lord spoke through his servants the prophets what was about to happen, the church received it and did the work. Hence the very great spiritual battles of the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections.
Amos 3:7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.
Suddenly it became a fight between two halves of this country. The Light began to shine in places of darkness. The division that has always been underlying became far more entrenched and far more visible. This fight between right and wrong, between the spiritual left and right, between antichrist and national revival ensued. The Kingdom of God began to rise up again in America as darkness was becoming displaced. And now today the battle royal wages on for the very heart and soul of America.
We have been in it now for eight years. 9/11 was a direct result of this shaking. Today we are under the gun for more shaking. The economy, strategies to bring terror to America, and strategies to increase division between ignorance and righteousness are all in the desire of God’s adversary.
Spiritual ground has been gained in the last eight years. But the spiritual left is hard at work to regain that ground.
Consider this scripture very seriously and with spiritual eyes:
Ecclesiastes 10:1-3 As dead flies give perfume a bad smell, so a little folly outweighs wisdom and honor. The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is.
Ground once gained is very precious. When it is lost, there ensues a great battle to regain it. Likewise, when ground has been gained, it is far easier to maintain it than to retake it. How we gain ground and maintain ground is in prayer and intercession followed by enactment of that which has been revealed from the Lord.
So where are we today? I say this… we are on the edge! Here are a series of words for today, both revelatory and prophetic:
1) INTERCESSION: The Spirit of the Lord is hovering over America for good and for Kingdom destiny. But we must be praying these manifestations in, according to revelatory intercession. Prophetic intercession is critical NOW and will be from this day forth. In as much as we pray, we will succeed in the battles ahead. In as much as we don’t pray we will fail. I’m not talking legalistically here. I speak to the church-wide call that never changes, to pray in the Holy Spirit.
2) DIVISION AND UNITY: The Lord is dividing into a clear delineation the spiritual left from the spiritual right. This will increase to the point of violent persecution. On the right is righteousness and Kingdom things. On the left are antichrist, humanism, worldliness, lust, materialism and perversions of truth. On the right is liberty, on the left is ever increasing forms of manipulation and control, starting with sugar coated socialism and increasing to violent dictatorship (the antichrist spirit).
3) THE PRESIDENTIAL CHOICE: The Lord is rising up John McCain and Sarah Palin in this hour to be the next President and Vice-President of the United States. If we pray they will. If we don’t they won’t. Either way, we will get what we ask for. They are the chosen ones who will operate in the Spirit of the Lord with revelation knowledge and wisdom that is from the Kingdom of God. Sarah Palin will become the President in time. She will be in the center of many battles but she will show the American church what it is to be filled with the Holy Spirit, to hear the voice of God, to do the plans that the Father gives her, to show America what it is to be dependent on God, to see radical successes in times that it seems impossible and to move with God given authority not seen for generations. The Lord is using her to brake off religious spirits and the false religious mentality that women are lower than men. The Lord will use the foolishness of people to confound the wise through Sarah Palin. We must pray for them now in the Holy Spirit. We must get into relationship with the Father and from those times of intimacy, hear and speak what Father tells us. The result will be great battles won while prostrate on the floor. Like Moses in the day of Battle and the servant that held his arms up to the Lord, so it will be with the church in the days ahead that we will hold up the hands of our leaders unto the day of spiritual victories.
4) CHURCH LEADERS: The Lord is rising up many nameless faceless ones to do great exploits in America and from America to go around the world to minister the Kingdom of God on earth in power. Many who have rejected the work of the Holy Spirit will receive him with great joy, turn and then move deeply in the Holy Spirit. Miracles will happen in America as revival continues to manifest in power. Religious structures will fall as the Holy Spirit continues to pour out in America the restoration of the church. And the Spirit filled church will go for want of nothing as these days of reaping and ground shaking increase. We will have everything we need to succeed by way of the Holy Spirit and angelic manifestations. Revelation is about to increase synergistically.
5) ECONOMY: (written before the knowledge of today’s record drop) The devil knows these things are coming and has heard the prophetic word. Hell has been shaken and continues to shake as the Spirit of the Lord and angels win fight after fight. We can see this shaking on Wall Street. The Dow Jones Industrial Average closing figures each day form what appears like a Richter scale register. It is flailing like in an earth quake. Hell has been shaken. The devil is strategizing against the American economy to take it down. He knows that if he can do this, then he can prevent the funding required to send revival fire out to the nations. The destruction of the American economy was the primary goal of satan at 9/11. Since that did not happen, he has resorted to other means to do it. Meanwhile the Lord is using this attack to destroy worldly means to gain wealth as it pertains to the Body of Christ. The Lord is using this to teach the Body of Christ that he is the provider and that ungodly means towards gain will succeed no longer. God is weaning the church off worldly provisionary means onto Kingdom provisionary means. Great ideas are going to come to the Spirit filled Body of Christ. The Holy Spirit filled church will be prospered in times of economic attack so that the word will flow from here to the harvest fields. But for now, the Lord is saying get out of debt by whatever godly means it takes to do so.
6) TERRORISM: There are plans and strategies to attack America with terrorism underway. Now more than in any time in the last eight years we are in danger of such an attack. What I am concerned about is an attack from within as much as an attack through other countries. We need to be praying about that. There are two reasons I see for increasing danger from terrorism. Primary Reason One: To cause more reason to bring accusation to President Bush and the spiritual right. The ultimate goal is to cause America to vote for Barack Obama for President. The devil knows that if he can get Obama in, there will be far more liberty for him (demonic forces) to traffic in the American government. Reason Two: The economy has buckled under the weight of demonic efforts against it. The enemy sees this as a prime opportunity to finish off our economy. To introduce great fear in times of economic turmoil might render the economy into a state of depression.
7) ON BARACK OBAMA: If Barack Obama becomes President of the United States, where ungodliness abounds, it will abound in far greater measure and in ever increasing ungodliness. There will be a manifestation of antichrist and economic disaster that will do great damage to the call and purpose of the United States for generations to come. (Though if we awake and pray during his presidency, much can be averted.) How we choose as the American Body of Christ over the next two months will cause America to turn in the direction of Kingdom greatness or in the direction of potential disaster. This leads me to the final point…
8)INTERCESSION (Point Two): It’s the key that will open the door or leave it locked to full Holy Spirit revival in America. As goes the leader, so goes the nation. It’s the most basic spiritual principle of all. In the hands of the Spirit filled Body of Christ in America in this hour rests the choice for our future. Will we pray or will we not? This now is in our hands to either win or lose. Stands before us now are blessings or curses, peace or war, liberty or bondage… revival or religion.
End Prophetic Words
Last Thoughts
1 Tim 2:1-2 I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone–for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.
What will we believe? Will it be an old dead religious way that says the church should have no effect in government? Shall we believe that we should remain silent as to God’s heart for American leadership? Certainly not! I hear the Spirit of the Lord making known the heart of the Father and the word of Jesus Christ. He says, “America is mine!” Now then, it is our responsibility to go forth in authority and in bold humility and to declare spiritual Kingdom truths right into the halls of Congress, the Senate and in the White House; not by what we think but by what we have been given! Going away are the days that we prayed in hiding and in the basement of these buildings. The day is short at hand that we will be praying from the podium and the front steps, hand in hand with those in responsibility.
To finalize these thoughts, here’s the very word of the Lord to America. I have replaced the word “you” with “America” in certain places for effect:
Deut 30:15-20 See, I set before (America) today life and prosperity, death and destruction. For I command (America) today to love the LORD your God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then (America) will live and increase, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess.
But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient (America), and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.
This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you (America) that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live, and that you may love the LORD your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the LORD is (America’s) life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers…
America is on the very precipice, balanced on the very edge that can go either way… God’s glory, or man’s disaster. How America succeeds or fails has everything to do with right choices of the Holy Spirit filled Church in the days ahead. I pray with all my heart that by revelation knowledge and then our right choices, the seat of this Government will be the seat of Christ, not the seat of antichrist.
Timothy Scott Morton
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